Storm in a teacup? Royal Navy in Mayport
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Breaking news today that Royal Navy sailors occasionally drink alcohol and sometimes get drunk. That seems to be the headline news on some papers today, who are terribly seized about the fact that when HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH pulled into Mayport, Florida, six of the roughly 1200 crew present were arrested after a night out.
The story appears to be that following a night out in town, where local proprietors complained they weren’t warned the Brits were coming (to be fair, neither were the staff of the White House in 1812), and that they didn’t tip very well (e.g. 10% or UK norms). To add insult to injury some of the crew got rather drunk and a few got arrested.
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This could the story of any of thousands upon thousands of runs ashore in the many centuries that the Royal Navy has been in the business of being the world’s premier war winning navy. The reality is that we ask a great deal of the young men and women who volunteer to go to sea, who put up with difficult, challenging and at times very dangerous working environments and who do so for months at a time.
It is easy to forget that the environment into which we send our sailors is incredibly dangerous, and given the slightest provocation, is actively trying to kill you. Add to this the requirement to spend months away from home living in cramped confines, a few feet away from high explosives, fuels, the Club Swingers abandoned stinky gym kit and other toxic and flammable nasties, and you quickly realise that working on a warship in the deep ocean is not a benign club med cruise, but somewhere that demands your respect and full attention, lest you make a mistake that could have catastrophic consequences.
The crew of HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH are young, a very significant proportion of them are on their first sea draft, and this will almost certainly have been their first ‘foreign’ run ashore. They have been worked incredibly hard now for 18 months, taking their ship out from initial sea trials to commissioning and now to fast jet operations. This is coupled with heavy refit periods at home and a relentless pace of activity to keep to a very tight timetable for which there is little room for error or delay. To put it mildly, if anyone out there deserves a beer or two, it’s the crew of HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH.
Matelots since the dawn of time have been coming ashore ready to tell tall tales and draw up even taller bar bills. This is exacerbated by the age of our sailors – many of whom are young, possibly a little inexperienced about the world and who instead of hanging round their local town centre on a Saturday night causing trouble most weeks, have demonstrated they have the drive and willpower to volunteer to make a success of themselves and serve their Country too.
The Royal Navy has in recent years perhaps lost the art of the really epic run ashore in foreign ports. A general reduction in interesting port visits in recent years, or runs ashore in to the same operationally superb, but morale sapping port means the opportunity for a spontaneous night out that will become the tale of legends has declined. In a Navy busy supporting operations in the Med or Gulf, the ports they pull into like Bahrain or Souda Bay in Crete are friendly and welcoming, but not necessarily conducive to a really great night out.
While sailors will continue to get drunk, the locations are less exciting and the opportunities to bond with mates in exotic locations are diminished. There is a sense that for every awesome (and almost certainly anecdotal) story of a great night out involving camels, shenanigans with locals and waking up on the wrong ship as its about to put to sea, there are many more tales of ‘two pints in the local weatherspoons then back to the ship before it starts raining’.
This loss of the opportunity to really have a good time out has combined with a very different breed of sailor – while Jack will still be Jack, todays sailors are driven by different drivers. Anecdotally alcohol use as a whole appears to be far less today than 15 years ago – the days of walking into a dockyard Wardroom Bar at lunchtime and discovering a large cast of extras from the Cruel Sea downing beer like it is at risk of becoming extinct have gone forever. The modern sailor will be far more likely to be doing time in the gym or being online with mates than they will necking cans back every night.
There has been a marked culture change away from drinking heavily to drinking occasionally for many (but not all) sailors. The opportunity of a run ashore after a long time at sea when drink restrictions are in force seems to have led to some sailors to have possibly too good a night out.
This in itself is not an issue, nor is it remotely newsworthy. Just look back to the opening episode of the 1978 series of Sailor to see large numbers of sailors getting drunk in a bar surrounded by some very scantily clad dancing girls before stumbling back on board to realise that in 40 years, very little has changed in some behaviours – and the hangovers and retribution from the Captains Table are likely to be just as severe as before.
What has changed though is the manner in which a non-story involving the arrest for minor offences of 0.5% of a ships company has quickly become global news, being picked up across broadcasters in the US and UK. This demonstrates the invidious nature of social media, which permits people to post information on twitter and for it to quickly get recycled to fill copy on news feeds.
We are now expecting our junior personnel to operate effectively in an environment where if they make a mistake, then it can quickly get escalated out of control to become a story. The reality is our people are now expected to operate it an environment where a single mistake or letting their hair down can quickly have serious consequences at the national media level. This is a very big pressure to put on the shoulders of junior personnel.
This puts significant pressure on people who are, essentially, going for a beer after work. In turn this makes the long handled screwdriver of control and warnings to people about ‘DO NOT MESS UP’ ever more likely as the inevitable reaction in some quarters will be to over react.
One has to hope that the overreaction is minimal and that people see this event for what it is – a reminder that the fantastic people who volunteer to defend our islands do, occasionally, have a bit too much to drink and do some silly things. This does not mean they are not worthy of our respect, nor that the QUEEN ELIZABETH should implement a ‘no fun’ regime as an overreaction.
Indeed as one Army commentator noted, this is the sort of story that will serve as an excellent recruiting opportunity for many future sailors. When the crew comes home, they will get a chance to tell their friends that they had “an excellent night out in the US, had all manner of drinks, got into a fight with a mate, got tasered when running away from police and still got to take part in helping get the F35 strike fighter operating at sea – BEST JOB EVER!” That’s a pretty compelling pitch to many young men and women looking for adventure and excitement in their lives.
Lets hope that this quickly blows over and normal service resumes as we look to hearing the good news about the welcome return of fixed wing carrier aviation to the Royal Navy by the end of this month. After 8 years absence, we’re nearly back in the game – surely that calls for a drink?
Excuse granted.
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is Thank god, we didn't have Facetime/ Whats App and every other online tool that instantly tells the world what you are doing when I was in the Army. 6 people from 1200 seems a quiet night really. Given the fact they were "Brits" who had not been on dry land for a few weeks, I think the numbers are low.
ReplyDeleteThe Government needs to take a look in the mirror before chastising our troops about drinking! They are supposed to be running the country. One only has to look at the recent state of Carl Junker on TV, staggering about in the middle of the day, they have no room to talk!
ReplyDeleteRoyal Navy sailor having one to many on a "run ashore" not really news is it.
ReplyDeleteI seem to remember the last time I was along fide in the states that certain members of the ships embarked forces were amusing themselves by tasering each other on the balls! Which upset a few of the locals - Happy times indeed.
ReplyDeleteTypical misogynistic behaviour, totally excludes women. There needs to be some diversity training.
DeleteNot really... Women could only join the Royal Marines this autumn... So it was all blokes in the EMF (Embarked Military Forces).
DeleteAs a a serving member I can definitely relate to this. The slightest misdemeanours anywhere are magnified by social media posts and blown out of proportion by the press. However as they say... "Never let the truth get in the way of a good dit!"
ReplyDeletethe forces have been doing this for years. Get over it
ReplyDeletegood to see nothing has changed keep up the good work boys and girls.BZ
ReplyDeleteI think what has actually changed is that the American authorities have stopped just saying "you crazy Brits" and calling in the shore patrol, and instead take it into their own hands. Last time I was in the US, we had folk "stealing" a mounted Policeman's horse and bringing it back to the ship (only to fail to get it up the gangway) three night's on the trot - no arrests/tasers or deaths - just a final defeated announcement from the Skipper that the next person to try it would be getting their leave stopped... times have changed.
ReplyDeleteWell said... tin anyone?
ReplyDeleteGood dit and very accurate
ReplyDeleteWell that's one in the eye for The Massive Crew!
ReplyDeleteFantastic article. Well said Sir👌🏻👍🏻
ReplyDeleteThank you Sir Humphrey for supporting our Naval boys and girls. From the mother of a Submariner.
ReplyDeleteWhy hasn't laneon been posting on this thread, telling us that this news means the UK is no longer a significant military power? After all, he usually manages to make most of your blogs about that. Is he running out of material?
ReplyDeleteI fully support Sir Humphrey's comments and would add another observation...
ReplyDeleteOn many weekend nights lots of people get drunk and cause skirmishes and problems in towns and cities the length and breadth of the UK. Such events rarely make the local press and when they do I think the stories rarely details the individuals' professions and probably never name the individuals' employers. Just demonstrates the higher standards expected of the military.
Whats a little skirmish. Only 6 arrested. I remember being in NORFOLK VIRGINIA USA in August 1977 onboard HMS Penelope and reading In the (secure and guarded) dockyard, a sign which read something like this, "Incidents to-date, 1169. Muggings 189, Fatal 99. Sexual Assaults, 288. and so on. I can't remember the exact figures but only 6 arrests. Get a life!!
ReplyDeleteWell said. Jolly Jack will always drink too much on the first night ashore. Problem is the younger lads are getting their first taste of a foreign port way before they have learnt to control themselves or stop gobbing off when someone is pointing a taser at you! My only pick up on this is you said "cramped conditions", have you seen the mess decks on this ship, it's literally like a cruise liner! Many of these lads don't know what it's like to live in spaces with 30 to 40 other lads in a sardine can, these days they are aggrieved if they are in a cabin of 6!
ReplyDeleteWould be nice if the press happened along with every jetful of pissheads and potheads journeying every day of the summer from Manchester and Gatwick to Tenerife, Marbella and Ibiza and compared like for like the behaviour. The press lay in wait, happy to tout crap facts and infographics of ships like the QE to fill up their boring pages, and then jump at the chance to stick the boot in when less than one percent of the ship staff get 'arrested' (they weren't) when they have had a few sherberts. They need to ask themselves who will man the fire engines in the next strike, who will bury dead cattle when BSE happens round once more and who will be assisting with flood defences next winter? Morrisons? Tesco? Or the Armed Forces?
ReplyDeleteI remember many runs ashore that ended up utter chaos...one in Dijbuti ended up as international incident�� also when my brother was on the Edinburgh and had their first foreign run in Gib after a 2 year refit...50 members of the ships company got arrested on the first night in...the Joss was well happy������
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely Spot on Sir Humphrey
ReplyDeleteIn the Army they used to issue this advice for when we went on pass, "Don't increase the population, don't decrease the population and be back before 1600 on Sunday." Nobody died to I'd say that liberty was a success.
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